Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

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Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by shadow6162 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:22 pm

Well it's up! Very interesting this one, it has the gargoyle room and this odd puzzle room, let's share thoughts on them! http://youtu.be/TSU8i1jlCCw
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by HStorm » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:44 pm

Certainly glad they trimmed down the opening scene quite a lot. Still not a fan of it, but it's a lot less irritating now. They also seem to have changed the voice treatments on some of the level 2 scenes - neither good nor bad, that, just an observation.
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Post by HStorm » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Another interesting development is the notorious "Did-she-or-didn't-she-swear?" moment. The sound-field seems to have been adjusted so Isy's voice comes through more clearly, and there is now no doubt at all that she says, "heck".
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by pjmlfc05 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:07 pm

Yeah I did enjoy seeing the 2 extra rooms. The prime numbers room felt like a causeway puzzle which I always enjoyed watching in series 5 and 6. Was expecting the gargoyle to say more. Also shades of Barry with the dramatic music with the drips of water!

Yes on this video you can clearly hear Isy say 'Heck'! I still say it does sound more like the f bomb going back to the original episode! ;D
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Post by Canadanne » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:35 pm

Yayyy! Thank you so much to everyone involved in getting this to us. :)

I see that even the final edit didn't include everything they filmed (we don't see any more of the spider chase through Level 1 that Alan mentioned, or the team's full conversation in the Level 2 clue room). Great to see more of Theodora and Lord Fear, though.

I'd love to know what happens if you "overdo it" by standing under the energy drip for too long, haha! Would he start bouncing off the walls? ;D

I wasn't expecting the Gargoyle to behave like a Blocker, I thought it would be more chatty! Funny how some of them never shut up, while others have nothing to say except "Password!" or "Doom!"

The team did well on the prime number Causeway thingy. :)

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Post by wombstar » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:17 pm

Good to see this version again feels much more compete than the short version.
Feels more like an adventure.
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Post by HStorm » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:15 pm

Isn't it interesting - dare I say hopeful - that it's titled Knightmare Pilot, given what pilot episodes are usually used for...? :)
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Post by Mystara » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:54 am

The intro is actually only about 20 seconds shorter by my reckoning. It's about 5% less.

As for the name, it was being used for exactly what the name suggests and still might be.
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by pjmlfc05 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:05 pm

Mystara wrote:The intro is actually only about 20 seconds shorter by my reckoning. It's about 5% less.

As for the name, it was being used for exactly what the name suggests and still might be.
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Post by Mystara » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:04 pm

Challenge probably aren't big enough.

The only thing I recall hearing about the whole process was that one of the networks cited fans' criticism of the geek week episode as the reason for their lack of interest.
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by pjmlfc05 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:49 pm

And that is why I still stand by what I say. That 4 people from the forum should have got the chance to be part of it. No disrespect to Dan, Phil, Emma and Stuart but looking at the comments on the gw episode, a lot of people were not interested in Knightmare itself, just them. The episode should have been about Knightmare first and foremost.

So in my opinion the focus ended up on the youtubers instead of Knightmare. Which is why there was so much negativity.
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Post by Mystara » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:22 pm

pjmlfc05 wrote:And that is why I still stand by what I say. That 4 people from the forum should have got the chance to be part of it.
I completely disagree, but the point is moot.

A pilot was only able to be produced because Google wanted to commission an episode of Knightmare. Google insisted on using the YouTubers. Therefore, the pilot also had to make use of them as the contestants. Short of handing Tim £100k, it's that or nothing.

But that point notwithstanding, it's an entirely sensible tactic to make use of four well-known geeks in order to draw an audience in to your pilot and get the audience interested in what could be a new show. And people DID become interested as a result.
No disrespect to Dan, Phil, Emma and Stuart but looking at the comments on the gw episode, a lot of people were not interested in Knightmare itself, just them.
I see plenty of people excited in seeing Dan and Phil (in particular). But most of those people also clearly found the show exciting. I have yet to see a comment that puts forward the message "That was crap, but I loved seeing Dan and Phil". The YouTubers were clearly the reason that many people saw the episode (even though, actually, the video was posted on Ashens channel, whose demographic is almost identical to that of Knightmare).

But given that had the desired effect of pulling people in and getting a bunch of people excited about a possible show that they otherwise never would have heard of, who cares? Networks certainly don't. They want to commission shows that people will watch. Whether people watch the show because it's "Dan and Phil" or because it's "Knightmare" doesn't matter to them at all. But it DOES matter in terms of getting a big enough audience that would make networks sit up and listen. Knightmare on its own wouldn't have done that. It's been tried before.

So I ask myself - if the choice was between "no more Knightmare" or "Knightmare featuring YouTubers as contestants", which would I pick?

I confess that I always choose the latter.
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by shadow6162 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:42 pm

I think I'd choose the latter too, at least the YouTubers fans will at least know the show exists ^_^
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by pjmlfc05 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:45 pm

What I'm trying to say is most of the negativity came because of Dan, Phil, Emma and Stuart. Whether that's right or not is up for debate. I don't think they were bad personally. I did think they were ok.

Of course I would watch Knightmare with youtubers. However, some people were watching it purely for them and NOT Knightmare. Which I find wrong.

If you say the networks lack of interest was due to the criticism, would this have happened if the youtubers were not used and instead 4 people picked at random? It's not their fault but unfortunately some people did not like them. This gave the wrong impression of what the geek week episode was meant to be about for me and the focus was lost on some of the people.
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Re: Knightmare Geek Week Extended Episode

Post by Mystara » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:11 pm

pjmlfc05 wrote:If you say the networks lack of interest was due to the criticism, would this have happened if the youtubers were not used and instead 4 people picked at random?
No, the criticism would be that not enough people were interested, which is a much stronger criticism.
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