Re: Knightmare Convention
Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 18:34
A good question and something I genuinely don't understand.dugeoneerborne wrote: I really hope we reach this, why aren't more of the km community getting involved?.
A good question and something I genuinely don't understand.dugeoneerborne wrote: I really hope we reach this, why aren't more of the km community getting involved?.
This argument keeps being made, but wouldn't the many hundred thousand Youtube views, Challenge viewing figures and general reaction to last year's events be a much bigger indicator in the opposite direction?Mystara wrote:If the KM convention flops, it will suggest to media companies that there's simply no interest in Knightmare any longer.
I totally agree. The future of Knightmare will not depend entirely on the convention.malibupete wrote:This argument keeps being made, but wouldn't the many hundred thousand Youtube views, Challenge viewing figures and general reaction to last year's events be a much bigger indicator in the opposite direction?Mystara wrote:If the KM convention flops, it will suggest to media companies that there's simply no interest in Knightmare any longer.
It'll be an absolutely massive shame if this convention doesn't go ahead, but I feel like it's a little disingenuous to tie the show's future (or otherwise) in so completely with how well the convention does...
Where would we see this?HobGoblin wrote:I notice that a press release is ready for distribution - fingers crossed!
This is true, I don't think KM has the popularity or the authority, and a bit of a relic from the past with fans far and few between to pull this off.pjmlfc05 wrote:I totally agree. The future of Knightmare will not depend entirely on the convention.
That's better, still might be a bit wordy, but I give you lots of credit for putting it together at short notice and making a huge effort.. hopefully you're hard work pays off and it boots awareness.dugeoneerborne wrote:I've simplified it and it should look a lot better now,
No.malibupete wrote:This argument keeps being made, but wouldn't the many hundred thousand Youtube views, Challenge viewing figures and general reaction to last year's events be a much bigger indicator in the opposite direction?Mystara wrote:If the KM convention flops, it will suggest to media companies that there's simply no interest in Knightmare any longer.
I feel as if I'm missing something by not knowing the answer either. My sense is that a lot of people, not just Knightmarians but in most circles and walks of life these days, want something for nothing. Challenge shows Series 1 and 2, people clamour for Series 3. People chuck out tweets about how Knightmare 'should be on DVD' but don't look into how they might be able to help it happen. The figures I keep coming back to are number of Knightmare Facebook likes versus number of pounds the Indiegogo campaign needs to raise. If every liker pledged £1 then it would be a done deal. But that surely won't happen. I remember my disappointment at realising that people who type 'lol' aren't actually laughing out loud. Similarly, clicking Like on Facebook is scarcely more meaningful than a nervous twitch these days.Alan wrote:A good question and something I genuinely don't understand.Martin wrote: I really hope we reach this, why aren't more of the km community getting involved?.
That would be wishful thinking sadly. I hear your frustration but this there are genuine reasons as highlighted by Wombstar as to why people haven't pledged. I'd still say that £12 k was a lot to ask for in the amount of time given. Yes other campaigns have asked for more and have been successful but what are the reasons for this? Timing? More notice given that a campaign will take place? Maybe people had the money to pledge at the time? Maybe the person doing the campaign had the right contacts or knew people who could provide influence?Drassil wrote:The figures I keep coming back to are number of Knightmare Facebook likes versus number of pounds the Indiegogo campaign needs to raise. If every liker pledged £1 then it would be a done deal. Life Force damage, if you like.
If anything I thought that if there was a future for Knightmare it would be based on the geek week episode? I just can't see how a convention would be a gauge for tv companies if they think a show could be made or brought back.Mystara wrote:Today, a friend of mine (who works in the media) remarked:
"I cannot believe that so many Knightmare fans cannot raise such a tiny amount of money".
THAT is the perception that we are giving to people who work in media. Now my friend isn't in charge of programme purchasing, but that was her professional opinion that presumably reflects the opinion of her company/bosses who DO purchase programmes.
It is disconcerting to say the least.
It's really not. As Drassil points out, we can reach all of our 15k Facebook fans and more in a single post. All it would take is £1 each. Heck, I'm amazed we can't even find a mere 700 people who want to play the dungeon out of fan base of 15,000.I'd still say that £12 k was a lot to ask for in the amount of time given.
But YouTube views are fakable, influenced by search engines, affected by repeat views, don't represent how long someone viewed the video for.pjmlfc05 wrote:If anything I thought that if there was a future for Knightmare it would be based on the geek week episode? I just can't see how a convention would be a gauge for tv companies if they think a show could be made or brought back.