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Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 20 Jun 2004, 19:14
by Illusion
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Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 20:05
by Tom41
Some unusual things for this episode!

Even though no quest was in progress at the start of the episode, Treguard still gave a summary of the previous team's fate. Then, onto the Enter Stranger routine. It's Akash's team, perhaps one of the worst teams in the history of Knightmare ;)
Oddly, they didn't start in the Wheel of Fate room, instead in a room with 4 doors (one of which was a Fire Exit). Then met a troll, convinced him that Akash wasn't good to eat, and gained a TRUTH spell.
Then onto the clue room, where they had to spellcast TRUTH to get at least 1 right on the wall monster's riddles! (I wouldn't have got that first one - the only one I could get was the one about the Sun and Moon)

Since they didnt' get the information they needed, they took the poison instead of the ice pack. And even though they knew their quest was for the Sword, they nearly guided Akash into the 'cup' door in the Corridor of Catacombs! Did Treguard have to intervene? I mean, they were going to die in the next room anyway :D

Lillith needed the ice pack and they didn't have it, so the ledge crumbled (but Akash didn't fall, just cut straight to the Life Force Death).

However, I don't think that was how the quest originally happened. Here's what I think:

1. They got the Wheel of Fate as usual, and spun up the clue room straight away
2. They got all three riddles wrong, and Igneous said "None is the score. Your quest ends here!"
3. Life force Death, and Ooh Nasty.

But I think the production team were lenient with them, feeling that a 1-room quest was rather unfair. Or perhaps the backup team hadn't arrived in the studio yet! So they probably went and filmed the scene with the 4-door room and the Troll giving them the spell, then re-filmed parts of the Clue Room scene so that they used the spell and got 1/3. After that, well, it was up to them what items they took ;)

Next team got the Wheel of Fate and got into the 4-door room. Took Folly's advice and took the Sword door. Then into a Bomb Room with food on the floor, but the bomb fuse was lit! They had to choose - restore their Life Force, or escape the room with their life! Chose the latter. Got food in the Clue Room anyway.

The riddle about the Magic Tree doubling its height reminds me of one riddle in The Crystal Maze! (Saturday it would be half grown, Sunday fully grown). However, it timed out in front of Granitas before they could answer.

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 20:10
by Ben5067
lol akash lives rite next to me well not rite rite next to me but near lol, shame he didnt last to long but their ya go lol

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 20:40
by Billy
Oh, Akash, Akash, Akash! Along with a certain other team in Series 3, probably the worst quest ever (with no offence to any possible team members reading this!) I did like the way Treguard turned to the camera at one point and said 'This team seem to be hunting for trouble!'! Funny that the answer to riddle 1 wasn't revealed, though, although the creature at the back of the COtC (Corridor Of the Catacombs) looked great. Granitas seemed to have a blue tinge today, for some reason- and I notice I'm not the only one who noticed the similarity with the magic tree riddle and the one asked by Mumsie on TCM a few years later!

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 21:01
by Slizergiy
I think that Akash just sucked. They just managed to escape danger and in the end took the plunge after getting no questions right.
All in all, Akash was a complete wazzock!

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 21:15
by Malefact
My word, what a hoot. :)

Apart from in series 6, this was the only episode to start afresh with a new team (and, conversely, yesterday's episode finishing with a death - only series 1 and 6 feature such an episode). I've heard that the scene with the Troll was added after the Clue Room in order to ensure that the team got one of the riddles correct (the answer was King Cnut - I'm not sure on the spelling). I think they probably messed up the Bomb Room, too, but were allowed to carry on. No offence to the team but their quest is probably the best example of how to mess up the game totally. :)

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 21:42
by HStorm
Your spelling of Cnut is absolutely perfect, Mal!

Akash is an okay dungeoneer I reckon, but his guides were just completely out of their depth.

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 21:50
by MoanaLiza
BillyH wrote:Oh, Akash, Akash, Akash! Along with a certain other team in Series 3, probably the worst quest ever (with no offence to any possible team members reading this!)
You're forgetting a certain directionally challenged s4 team there. Yes they did last longer than the other two mentioned but they were still pretty poor.

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 23:24
by Purgatory
the death on the ledge was better...
it looked kinda silly in the 1st season, and instead of having the dungeoneer fall the screen fell...lol Great stuff.
Lilith has got two deaths to her name so fair!

That green monster was odd.. must be the same one we say before in the hole in the wall... could very well be the same one from the 1st season which we never see a close up of.

Pity they didn't allow the team to pass the cup, and pity they didn't allow the wall monster to kill them >:( >:(

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 23:45
by HStorm
The green monster is called the toaderdile. It's one of those features that seemed quite scary when I was 13, but it's total immobility is kind of obvious these days.

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 26 Jun 2004, 09:34
by TheBrollachan
Just watch the overnight version, and I definately agree that they were allowed to redo their quest. It's the only one (as far as I'm aware) that doesn't have the Wheel of Fate, and probably was because the next team hadn't arrived. Could Tim Child confirm this when he's next online (if he remembers).

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 26 Jun 2004, 13:51
by Arcengal
Aw, I wanted to catch the riddles they couldn't get. Can someone please post them up (minus the answers)?

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 26 Jun 2004, 13:58
by TheBrollachan
They went along these lines...

1. Who tried to turn back the tide?
2. What heavenly body controls the tides?
3. (Used on the Crystal Maze) I planted a plant on Monday, and every day it doubled in height. On Sunday it had finished growing, on what day was it half the final height.

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 26 Jun 2004, 14:11
by HStorm
That third riddle's one of the ones Neil's team were asked, not Akash.

The third one Akash was asked was "Without this machine, roads might as well be footpaths, what is it?"

Re:Series 2 - Episode 7

Posted: 26 Jun 2004, 14:26
by Billy
No, I believe that was the second asked, and the one about the heavenly body was the third, so they went along THESE lines:

1. Who tried to turn back the tide?
2. Without this machine, roads might as well be footpaths, what is it?
3. What heavenly body controls the tides?