Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Knightmare inspired creations from the community.
Post Reply
DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:24 pm

Well, UK Lockdown has got me resurrecting this old project...

Now, presenting the Corridor of Blades in pseudo-3D!

https://youtu.be/t7xWBO3V514

Image
Attachments
Sliding Floor Test Image.jpg
Sliding Floor Test Image.jpg (224.99 KiB) Viewed 2323 times
CoB Test Image.jpg
CoB Test Image.jpg (148.41 KiB) Viewed 2323 times

User avatar
JamesA
Fright Knight
Fright Knight
Posts: 1553
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:33 am
Location: London

Re: Re:Download Knightmare Game Here!

Post by JamesA » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:40 pm

Great work with the Corridor of Blades footage - it is evident that you've put a lot of effort and time into making this, well done! Loved the scene during the last ten seconds (I won't give it away so not to spoil it for anyone).

Having explored your YouTube channel a bit further I must say that I enjoyed the atmospheric reworking of your Dwarf Tunnel footage too.

Hope some footage from the sliding door room also emerges - would be fantastic to see!
James Aukett
Creator of the Knightmare: 25th Anniversary Documentary

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Re:Download Knightmare Game Here!

Post by DJOSKA87 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:59 pm

Thanks for your encouragement.

I've still got many obstacles to overcome before I can make this into anything remotely useful.

Animating the characters is going to be a huge chore.
After experimenting with superimposing characters from video footage of Knightmare episodes, with unsatisfactory results, I am now toying with the idea of recreating them in 3D so that I can animate them in Blender.

Starting with Elita, as her costume appears rather simple to model:
Designing Elita.jpg
Designing Elita.jpg (36.19 KiB) Viewed 2205 times

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Re:Download Knightmare Game Here!

Post by DJOSKA87 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:45 pm

Ok. A little more progress getting used to this Blender lark slowly...

Elita is now joined by a Gwendoline (her belts will need a more three-dimensional rework, plus her weapon holsters)
Gwendoline1.jpg
Gwendoline1.jpg (40.21 KiB) Viewed 2186 times
I've also started on a Hordriss, whose hair I've had to sculp completely from scratch, as it's quite a unique style. I haven't figured out how to add the red streaking yet, but have started on his cape, which is attached along his arms.
Gwendoline1.jpg
Gwendoline1.jpg (40.21 KiB) Viewed 2186 times
This is all a complete learning curve to me- my 3D rooms were created using SketchUp, in which I've become a bit of a whizz, but Blender is completely different and much more powerful.
In time, perhaps a full 3D game will be will become a reality!

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Thu May 21, 2020 11:39 pm

I thought I'd start a new thread documenting my progress on a development which I originally conceived in 2006, when I made a 2D Knightmare PC game. Many of you Knightmare Stalwarts will remember it being hosted on Turaja_Nuju's website and I do believe I distributed hard copies on CD-ROM to some of you.

Anyhow, Lockdown 2020 has seen me rekindle my interest in creating such a game- albeit very much improved from my original dodgy graphics and limited-quality audio.

Seeing the amazing work Jamesuk has done with his virtual reality rooms and sourcing original audio footage, this really whet my appetite for achieving something which I have now wanted to achieve for almost 15 years- an immersive, interactive Knightmare experience that can be enjoyed by fans old and (k)new alike.

I have gone for the pseudo-3D style for a number of reasons:

The first is that I have very limited experience in 3D game coding, yet I am competent in 3D design, and also very familiar with the 2D game engine format I am using.

Secondly is that as a viewer, or indeed an advisor, you only ever see the environments from one angle- from behind.
Therefore, using this fixed camera angle, I then don't have to worry about imagining the "fourth wall" or ceilings that were never shown- or even designed!
I can also use this to my advantage to hide or manipulate objects out-of-sight to achieve a desired effect.

However, for the graphics I am using a 3D rendering program called Blender- an amazingly powerful tool, which can achieve some very realistic results.
Realism isn't necessarily what I am going for, as I want the rooms to look as true and faithful to the originals as possible- perhaps enhancing them if I feel the need.
Bomb Room.jpg
Bomb Room.jpg (34.54 KiB) Viewed 1880 times
Whilst progress has been good during this unsettled period of staying at home, the project has not been without its pitfalls. I still have many hurdles to overcome- particularly with the character interactions and quest scenarios.
Designing the characters in 3D has been a very steep learning curve, but I am really impressed with how some of them have turned out so far.
Characters So Far.jpg
Characters So Far.jpg (142.67 KiB) Viewed 1880 times
More images to follow...
However, what you see here may not be what makes the final cut- things are always subject to improvement!
Last edited by DJOSKA87 on Thu May 21, 2020 11:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Thu May 21, 2020 11:45 pm

I intend to recreate material from throughout the majority of series 1-8, depending on the source material available, how easy it is to incorporate into the game, how much time I have, etc.

Igneous makes an appearance:
Igneous Room.jpg
Igneous Room.jpg (47.59 KiB) Viewed 1879 times
Hopefully Brangwen will too!

So far, I've got a system set up with an array of different backdrops based on what features in the televised rooms, as well as the different tile symbols and randomly-programmed paths across the causeways:
Causeway Room.jpg
Causeway Room.jpg (59.95 KiB) Viewed 1879 times
Graphically, the Trial by Spikes is almost there, but I've still got a few constraints to overcome- we don't want dungeoneers running straight to the door between the 4th and 5th spikes!
Attachments
Trial by Spikes Room.jpg
Trial by Spikes Room.jpg (45.49 KiB) Viewed 1879 times

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Thu May 21, 2020 11:55 pm

I have already uploaded a demo of the infamous Corridor of Blades to YouTube here:

https://youtu.be/t7xWBO3V514

However, I think I can do better than that- wait until you see the revised graphics...

In case you're wondering how on earth I can get a third dimension on a 2D engine, I can tell you there is a lot of maths involved- plenty of trigonometry and scaling, which took me considerable time to get my head round.
One of the advantages of pseudo-3D graphics is that they're pre-rendered, so as long as the player's device has the memory capability to handle animation, it will look just as good on any device without the need for expensive graphics cards or plugins, meaning greater compatibility across devices (running NON-Apple systems).

User avatar
JamesA
Fright Knight
Fright Knight
Posts: 1553
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:33 am
Location: London

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by JamesA » Thu May 28, 2020 9:43 pm

DJOSKA87 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 11:45 pm
Graphically, the Trial by Spikes is almost there, but I've still got a few constraints to overcome- we don't want dungeoneers running straight to the door between the 4th and 5th spikes!
How is this coming along? I was thinking that if anyone tried to sneak their way past the 4th and 5th columns then a fireball could be programmed to shoot out and burn them from behind (similar to how Series 8 Team 4 were killed off).
James Aukett
Creator of the Knightmare: 25th Anniversary Documentary

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Fri May 29, 2020 12:22 am

Ah yes- I did think of that- we can always do things the Series 8 way and chuck a fireball in for blatant guaranteed death!

Progress is good- not quite as quick as I'd hoped, but it's progress, although the horn of full time employment beckons from the horizon, which is going to slow things down a bit in the coming weeks.

Anyhow, I've been animating and rendering a few bits over the last few days.

Firstly, I've re-animated the Level 1 Blocker- brick-by-brick!
L1Blocker.jpg
L1Blocker.jpg (117.94 KiB) Viewed 1808 times
I've also been learning how to animate water, thus making use of my new skills in recreating the Sewers of Goth!
GothWet.jpg
GothWet.jpg (40.47 KiB) Viewed 1808 times
Then there's designing an adaptation of "Play your Cards Right".
I've had to use creative licence to adapt the environment to suit my design and game engine, therefore the camera angle is not quite what you see on TV and I've had to lose one pair of cards in order to make things fit on the screen without the added complexities of pseudo-3D sidescrolling graphics!
Cards Right.jpg
Cards Right.jpg (80.75 KiB) Viewed 1808 times
I am happy with the way the textures turned out though- those lovely shiny textured bricks!
The dungeoneer can reach up and touch each card and the platforms slide in and out just as they should.
I just need to add in a goblin!

blackjack
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:41 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by blackjack » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:12 pm

That's super. I'm now a software engineer so I appreciate the effort that goes into these things. Didn't get on with Blender or Unity that well I'm definitely a coder not designer

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:47 pm

Blender is certainly not for the casual have-a-go 3D modeller...
I can't speak for Unity just yet, as I'm using ClickTeam Fusion 2.5 as the engine for this game.
Still a long way to go before it's perfect, but we'll get there in time!

DJOSKA87
Dungeoneer
Dungeoneer
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by DJOSKA87 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:31 pm

For those interested, here is an insight into my game project, which I've included as part of my ongoing series of vlogumentaries on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/SuauIGQSm3A

pjmlfc05
Knight
Knight
Posts: 597
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:58 pm
Location: Hampshire

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by pjmlfc05 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:21 pm

Just come across this. Great stuff! I loved what Jamesuk did previously and this looks fantastic too. I look forward to seeing more of your work.
The only way is onward, there is no turning back.

User avatar
JamesA
Fright Knight
Fright Knight
Posts: 1553
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:33 am
Location: London

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by JamesA » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:10 pm

The game looks like it's progressing really well. I really liked the part where you went into detail the processes and techniques used to put the scenes together. Thanks for sharing.
James Aukett
Creator of the Knightmare: 25th Anniversary Documentary

SLRCATCH
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:19 pm

Re: Pseudo-3D Knightmare Game- A Work in Progress

Post by SLRCATCH » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:36 pm

Being a fan of computer games, this one blows me away, I can tell this will be all worth it in the end! Keep up the good work!

Post Reply