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Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by BBrooks » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:27 pm

Is there anyone who's watching the new BBC fantasy series "Atlantis", written by the same team who created "Merlin". It follows the adventures of a modern-day Jason (Jack Donnelly), who gets transported to ancient Atlantis via a Gateway portal. Whilst there he befriends Pythagoras (Robert Emms), Hercules (Mark Addy) and Ariadne (no relation! - Aiysha Hart). The ruler of Atlantis is King Minos (Alexander Siddig) & his evil queen Pasiphae (Sarah Parish) and it is through The Oracle (Juliet Stevenson) that Jason learns of his destiny.

The look, pace & humour of "Merlin", has been retained for this show and there's a "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"/"Xena: Warrior Princess" feel to it. Opening episode "The Earth Bull" has already divided opinion, but I think it has the potential to be a hit and needs to find it's feet like "Merlin" did. There are many historical inaccuracies, but don't let that worry you. This is pure family entertainment with monsters, comedy, action, scary bits and plenty of sword & sorcery. You can't go wrong with something like that! :)

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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by pjmlfc05 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:31 pm

I forgot about this! Is this on iplayer or catch up? Seen the trailer and it looks good! Plus loved Merlin so should like this too!
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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by wombstar » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:44 pm

No.
But I recall one of the actors talking about how big the budget was... better spent on a new KM series I think ;)

I never watched Merlin either, might be something id watch with kids but as I don't I can't get into them. Both looked quite good though.

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Post by Canadanne » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:00 pm

Yes, I'm watching it. First episode was alright, but it's too early to tell whether or not it's going to be as enjoyable as its Saturday night predecessors.

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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by pjmlfc05 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:05 pm

Have managed to watch this just now. Didn't buy into the portal scene at the start but apart from that, it looks good. Yes it's only the first episode but if it's anywhere near as good as Merlin, it should be a good series!
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Post by BBrooks » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:42 pm

Episode 2 was a darker affair, if they keep that up for the rest of the season, then it should get good. I'd love for the Cult & their CGI Apes to return at some point and I'm looking forward to seeing more of Medusa (Jemima Rooper). Historical accuracy was ignored yet again, but it's best to view it within it's own universe.

We also got to see some of Hercules's strength in this story, when he punched one of those Apes out of the way. Mark Addy's oafish portrayal has already been a target for criticism, but I think that's intentional. This Hercules is older, past his prime & has let himself go, but I'd like to see more action, instead of him being the resident comedy character.

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Post by BBrooks » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:40 pm

I really enjoyed this series, after a slow start it gathered momentum and was dark at times. The show had great production values, with special effects to match and the cast clearly had a lot of fun making it. Hercules (Mark Addy) started out as a drunken/clumsy oaf, but when the Medusa storyline kicked in he got much better as a character. The rest of the cast did an admirable job and there was a strong array of guest stars like Robert Lindsay & John Hannah.

I'm glad it's been recommissioned for a second season, it's got the potential to be as long-running as "Merlin". Did anyone else notice that tribute to Ray Harryhausen & Jason and the Argonauts? When an evil witch summoned some Skeletons out of the ground (via Hydra's Teeth) to fight Jason and the gang.

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Post by Canadanne » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:38 pm

BBrooks(KM Forever) wrote:Did anyone else notice that tribute to Ray Harryhausen & Jason and the Argonauts? When an evil witch summoned some Skeletons out of the ground (via Hydra's Teeth) to fight Jason and the gang.
When Jason asked how to kill the sword-wielding skeletons, I wanted to shout that he needed Stiletta's magic ring! (I had just been listening to the Audio Series episode that featured it!)

The twist last night was good, I don't think anyone had seen that coming. Glad to see the king made a (somewhat miraculous) recovery, it would've sucked if they'd killed him off before he had a chance to do very much!

I love all the scenes with Pasiphae & the Oracle, there's so much tension between those two characters. And I hope there will be a happy ending for Hercules & Medusa.

Overall I didn't think the series was particularly great (nowhere near the standard of Merlin S1), but it's watchable enough, so I'll stick with it.

Anyone planning to watch The Musketeers, btw?

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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by pjmlfc05 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:04 pm

I thought it got better the more it went on and I'm happy there will be a 2nd series.It did get darker but still enjoyable! And yes, the twist was good!

Don't know if I will watch the Musketeers or not. From what I've seen of the promo, it hasn't grabbed my attention.
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Post by Drassil » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:04 pm

My theory is that Atlantis' popularity is largely down to viewers being in a vegetative state by the end of Strictly Come Dancing. I have been a devotee of classical mythology for a long time, and of all the interpretations I've read and seen, Atlantis has made me most embarrassed to be one. In my opinion, it doesn't deserve to be as successful as Merlin because it's inferior in every way. And I still want to know why Jason didn't encounter a language barrier when he arrived on Atlantis (sorry, at Atlantis: it's a mainland settlement now, isn't it?)

At its best, I find Atlantis mildly entertaining, and I was surprised by one of the twists in the Series 1 finale. I too was pleased at Minos' recovery - I like Alexander Siddig - though even if he had died, he could have continued in the series as a judge of souls in the Underworld, as per the mythology.

A happy ending for Heracles (it was the Romans who called him Hercules) and Medusa would annoy me. I'd rather see her suffer the same fate as she did in the myth: decapitation followed by a winged horse springing from her blood. I'm not sick, I'm just a purist. ;)

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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by Canadanne » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:52 pm

Drassil wrote:A happy ending for Heracles (it was the Romans who called him Hercules) and Medusa would annoy me. I'd rather see her suffer the same fate as she did in the myth: decapitation followed by a winged horse springing from her blood. I'm not sick, I'm just a purist. ;)
Haha. Well, I've already had to accept that these are *not* the mythological characters we're familiar with, they just happen to share the same names - it's the only way to enjoy the show instead of constantly shouting "That's not what happens!" - so with that in mind, I'd like to see a bit more of the only relationship they've actually made me care about. (Couldn't be less interested in Jason & Ariadne!)

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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by pjmlfc05 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:05 am

Drassil wrote:My theory is that Atlantis' popularity is largely down to viewers being in a vegetative state by the end of Strictly Come Dancing. I have been a devotee of classical mythology for a long time, and of all the interpretations I've read and seen, Atlantis has made me most embarrassed to be one. In my opinion, it doesn't deserve to be as successful as Merlin because it's inferior in every way. And I still want to know why Jason didn't encounter a language barrier when he arrived on Atlantis (sorry, at Atlantis: it's a mainland settlement now, isn't it?)

At its best, I find Atlantis mildly entertaining, and I was surprised by one of the twists in the Series 1 finale. I too was pleased at Minos' recovery - I like Alexander Siddig - though even if he had died, he could have continued in the series as a judge of souls in the Underworld, as per the mythology.

A happy ending for Heracles (it was the Romans who called him Hercules) and Medusa would annoy me. I'd rather see her suffer the same fate as she did in the myth: decapitation followed by a winged horse springing from her blood. I'm not sick, I'm just a purist. ;)
I think with Atlantis, it's not meant to be taken too seriously. After all, it's meant to be a family show! With regards to the Strictly comment, that show alone would put me in a vegetative state! I believe the average viewing figures were 7.5 million so it did appeal to a lot of people. It might not be as good as Merlin, but I still think it's decent enough.
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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by Drassil » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:01 pm

pjmlfc05 wrote:I think with Atlantis, it's not meant to be taken too seriously.
I don't see why any viewer should take Atlantis less seriously than he or she takes Greek mythology. Granted, it's not meant to be high drama and offers up plenty of comic farce (if you relish watching people endlessly running through marketplaces in the knowledge that fruit or vegetables are guaranteed to get knocked over), but so did Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and Xena: Warrior Princess, which in my opinion were far more enjoyable interpretations of Greek myth. If I said that Liverpool Football Club aren't meant to be taken seriously, I don't imagine that it would go down too well with you or people you know. ;)

I only hope that no one who watches Atlantis regards it as the first and last word in Greek mythology adaptations, just as I hope for no one who reads the Harry Potter series to regard it as the first and last word in (children's) literature.

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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by pjmlfc05 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:17 pm

Drassil wrote: If I said that Liverpool Football Club aren't meant to be taken seriously, I don't imagine that it would go down too well with you or people you know. ;)
I think in terms of the last couple of seasons you're probably right! ;D

I guess it depend what you are trying to get out of Atlantis. As it is a family show you will end up getting some silly moments. I enjoyed it because it was light hearted and didn't take itself too seriously. That's how I viewed Merlin too. For something more gritty I watched Game of Thrones.

To be honest I don't care about Greek Mythology, I just enjoyed Atlantis for what it was. It's not the best show ever and would never replace Merlin. At the end of the day Atlantis does what it's says on the tin.
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Re: Atlantis (BBC Series)

Post by wombstar » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:57 pm

I never watched it or Merlin but I know plenty of people who did and quite enjoyed it, it seems to be great Saturday evening family entertainment. My mother prefers it over Merlin.

7.5 million seems about right, it's about what Doctor who gets theses days on a series run.

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